I wish it could be possible to enjoy the tumblr posts on Ben and Andy, but since so many of them are also full of absolutely disgusting vitriol about Julia, I’m finding that sadly isn’t the case.
Deegres of hugs according by Jason Orange
With Gary: Meh
With Howard: Hey gurl (accordind to wearemadeoutofstars)
With Mark: I will squeeze you like a sweet anaconda
Poor Gary is all for it in the hug and Jay is just like, ehr there there. xD
Mark is so squeezeable (I think that word doesn’t exist but *shrugs* ;) )
I’m about to overanalyse the hugs here. There’s a part in My Take, where Gary writes about being at a café with Jason and how surprised he is when Jason tells the truth about it felt like being Gary’s band mate in the nineties. I don’t have the book with me so I can’t check the exact quote, but I think he said Gary was a nightmare to work with.
In LBDS Jason tells Robbie that it took the four of them years to work in their relationship.
When they met for the documentary it seems quite possible Jason still had some unresolved issues with Gary and didn’t have that, at least not as bad, with Howard and Mark.
I thought exactly of the same café scene but then I thought I’m just overanalyzing and didn’t bother saying anything. Who knows.
EDIT: The exact quote is “It was bloody difficult working for you and Nigel. You were a nightmare.” According to the book this happened in early 2004.
What always struck me about that quote is “you and Nigel”. When Jason’s puts someone in the same category as Nigel it’s not a good thing. If Jason’s relationship with Gary was really that bad (even if Gary didn’t realize it until that day), then their repaired friendship is almost as impressive as Gary and Robbie’s.
And supposedly Gary was Jason’s best friend in the band in the 90’s if we’re to believe Take That in Private (at least I think it was that book but I could be wrong), although I’ve never bought into that sentiment.
Also the fact that he said ‘working for you and Nigel’, not ‘with’ says a lot.
But all that matters is that they’ve been able to put all that behind them and are truly enjoying each other’s company now. That’s a lesson to learn for all of us.
I’m sorry ladies but I’ll disagree with all of you here. First, I don’t believe a word in Take That in Private because it was written by someone (what’s-her-name) who was paid by Nigel, focusing on giving the atmosphere of shipping about the members, in order to appeal to the female and gay audience. Gary’s best friend in the band around the 90’s was not Jason. It was Howard. Both have said it numerous of times.
Secondly, putting Jason and Gary’s relationship in the same category of Gary and Robbie’s is not exatcly right. As far as I know Jason never hated Gary publicly. And according to Gary in My Take (which I can see you all have read so you should remember) he gives the hint that after that conversation in the cafè in 2004, Gary realized his mistake in how he acted back then, and by the time the docummentary and the talks for the tour were coming, things were settled.
And now that you’re all analizing this part from For The Record, I believe Jason’s lazy hug (which I’ve seen him giving even to Howard, for example when he was crying during Rule The World on the last date of Circus Live) to Gary is due to the probable fact that they already had seen each other in those days, whereas he hadn’t seen Mark and Howard, only spoke on the phone. Recurring to My Take once again, if my memory serves me right, Gary was in touch with them previously to the filming of the documentary.
Now, it wouldn’t be bad if the boys would show their pretty faces at least for a second. Fans have nothing new to enjoy and talk about, and that’s when overanalizing comes in and we turn a completely funny and harmless gif set into a serious business. Although, at the same time it’s kind of selfish to wish for the boys to hurry their next work or appearance simply because we, the fans are getting bored.
And I don’t think any of the Jasonettes really would want to read Jason’s memoirs. The second you read how he does not understand the fans at all and does not care on how emotional involved they are in his private life and his thoughts and how he despise it all, you will be very disappointed and heart broken. Although he has said it before in more or less words anyway.
I’m sorry if I’m being too harsh. But dissapointment and hurt heart oftenly leads to hatred, and Jason doesn’t deserve to be futurely hated because of a world fabricated by people. He is human and he is entitled to not like fans.
Maybe some of you will hate me because of this. But I love all of you. I really, really like you Jasonettes *looks at the ones above in this post and offers a cookie*
Let’s go back to the flufiness and fun now, yes? *asks and smiles shyly*
Trust me, I have much more important things in my life to do than analyze any of these things seriously. A gif, a picture, a quote only reveal a small part of what is/ was really going on. It’s dangerous to read too much into any of them.
And I also said I never believed the story about Gary and Jason being bff’s in the 90’s because I’m well aware that quite many of the books are about as reliable as wikipedia. The things I say here are usually just brainfarts, nothing more. I do enough analyzing and over-analyzing at uni as my major is all about, well, analyzing and thinking (I bet Jason would love that!).
Jason said in For The Record that he was in awe of Gary and that that continued throughout the whole time of TT mark one. He said working for Gary was horrible, not that he didn’t like/love him. And in LBDS he said it took time to get to know each other again, not to like/love each other again.
Am I the only one who doesn’t see any noticeable difference at all in those three hugs?
I’m clearly very behind on my hug analysing skills.